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Geoffrey C. Ward is the author of "A First-Class Temperament: The Emergence of Franklin Roosevelt," which was awarded the National Book Critics Circle Award in 1989 and the Francis Parkman Prize in 1990. He has won five Emmys and two Writers Guild of America awards for his work for public television. Allen Barra, who wrote our review of "The War: An Intimate History 1941-1945," interviewed him recently.
The subject is so vast we needed some simple organizing principle, and four towns seemed like a good one. But the War was so universally felt that I suspect we would have had the same impact if we’d thrown darts at a map. However, Lynn Novick — probably the most unsung member of our team — did the preliminary winnowing. Luverne was picked because the eloquent pilot Quentin Aanenson came from there. Mobile was the home of the late Eugene Sledge and of his boyhood friends, Sid and Katherine Phillips. Sacramento was picked in part because we were interested in the Japanese internment story and knew that several veterans of the segregated 442nd combat team lived there. We also wanted a northeastern town, and when Lynn discovered the surviving members of poor Babe Ciarlo’s family, Waterbury was added to the list. In every case, we found more riches than we could possibly use. Like all organizing principles, ours proved inadequate, and we felt free to pepper both the series and the book with people who did not live in our towns, ranging from Senator Daniel Inouye to Arthur Mayer, a guy who happens to swim next to me at a pool on West 63rd street and lived through the fighting in Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge. Everyone we interviewed lived through the War. No historians needed to apply. What surprised me most when I watched the film was how vivid the recollections of the people interviewed are. It’s as if the subject of the war years switches on a light in their minds and suddenly they are back in the 1940s again. What surprised you about the people interviewed? Our witnesses' memories are astonishingly vivid. I'm not sure I was surprised by this -- the War was the biggest thing that ever happened to most of them, after all-- but I was amazed at the rich detail they could summon up and which I could independently verify. What did surprise me was how rarely they seemed interested in placing what happened to them in relation to what was happening in the world at large. For a good many of them, that puzzle evidently seemed too big to try to solve. The bibliography for "The War" is enormous – more than 350 volumes. From a historical and military point of view, were there certain books and writers that caused you to see America’s involvement in World War II in a different way? I did consult a lot of histories, mostly to provide context, and I read a lot of war memoirs. One of them — Samuel F. Hynes’, Flights of Passage, written by one our most eloquent witnesses -- seems to me to be a neglected masterpiece: candid, self-aware, spare and elegant. Among the histories, I was especially taken with An Army at Dawn, Rick Atkinson’s vivid account of the little-understood North African campaign and am eager to see his forthcoming account of the fighting in Italy. Most of the surprises came from the men and women who experienced the war and are always at the center of things.
From the first we wanted this series to answer the simple question: What was it like to live through the War? No matter how many books we read and reels of microfilm we spin through, those of us who weren’t around can’t really know. No one respects historians more than I do, but it was a pleasure to be able to do an entire series without anyone telling the viewer what he or she is supposed to think about what’s unfolding on screen. I think your book and the documentary make about the strongest case I’ve ever seen for the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Frit of all, I hadn’t realized that the fire bob raids on Tokyo were perhaps even more destructive than the atomic bombs. Mostly, though, it was listening to the troops themselves talk about how weary they were and how they were dreading the invasion of the Japanese homeland, knowing that the Japanese would not surrender. There’s a photo in the book that really struck home: the faces of Marines on Okinawa as thy received the news that the war in Europe had ended. There is no elation: they look as if they had just been told of a death in the family. |
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